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		<title>By: tableaux design</title>
		<link>http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>tableaux design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I bookmark it:)...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]check this : http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap[...]...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I bookmark it:)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>[...]check this : <a href="http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap" rel="nofollow">http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap</a>&#8230;]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Benson</title>
		<link>http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

Yes, this happens a lot to me also.   I mentioned that this notion is counter intuitive to many people.  This simply means that when we try to do it, we get a lot of push back that says &quot;that is not the way to do it!&quot;   One of my purposes to writing these kind of articles is to plant the notion that maybe the &quot;common wisdom&quot; approach is not what we always want to do.   My best &quot;change management&quot; approach is often to just go and do it - to demonstrate that it works.  I&#039;ll do it in parallel with the &quot;conventional&quot; approach (so, yes, it is an extra load with no guarantee of payback) and show how one was a better predictor of what actually happened then the conventional approach.

Hang in there and good luck.

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Yes, this happens a lot to me also.   I mentioned that this notion is counter intuitive to many people.  This simply means that when we try to do it, we get a lot of push back that says &#8220;that is not the way to do it!&#8221;   One of my purposes to writing these kind of articles is to plant the notion that maybe the &#8220;common wisdom&#8221; approach is not what we always want to do.   My best &#8220;change management&#8221; approach is often to just go and do it &#8211; to demonstrate that it works.  I&#8217;ll do it in parallel with the &#8220;conventional&#8221; approach (so, yes, it is an extra load with no guarantee of payback) and show how one was a better predictor of what actually happened then the conventional approach.</p>
<p>Hang in there and good luck.</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Management is the ART and SCIENCE of defining and accomplishing the objectives of an organization through the effective and efficient use of labor and other resources.  Note: it is both an ART and SCIENCE.  The ratio between ART and SCIENCE depends on what you&#039;re managing.  I studied Project Management in an academic setting long before MS-Project.  Today, I&#039;m subject to people who insist on a level of detail within MS-Project that to develop and maintain far exceeds the point of deminishing returns.  Theoretically, they&#039;re right, but in practice it falls apart.  I see it on project after project, over and over.  I try to establish a practical level-set in the beginning and I&#039;m the one who is labeled the &quot;bad project manager&quot;, even though in the end, they circle back to what I said in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Management is the ART and SCIENCE of defining and accomplishing the objectives of an organization through the effective and efficient use of labor and other resources.  Note: it is both an ART and SCIENCE.  The ratio between ART and SCIENCE depends on what you&#8217;re managing.  I studied Project Management in an academic setting long before MS-Project.  Today, I&#8217;m subject to people who insist on a level of detail within MS-Project that to develop and maintain far exceeds the point of deminishing returns.  Theoretically, they&#8217;re right, but in practice it falls apart.  I see it on project after project, over and over.  I try to establish a practical level-set in the beginning and I&#8217;m the one who is labeled the &#8220;bad project manager&#8221;, even though in the end, they circle back to what I said in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Project Management or Death by Detail? &#124; Project Management Tools That Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Project Management or Death by Detail? &#124; Project Management Tools That Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] could however, predict with a high degree of certainty when 95% of the features would be done (see avoid this trade off trap).  The same was true of fixing defects.  We could not predict very well when a particular defect [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://pmtoolsthatwork.com/avoid-schedule-trade-off-trap/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM,

In practice, at least for organizations that are not good at estimating,  I&#039;ve rarely seen the long pole stay the same throughout the development cycle.  This means you can&#039;t rely on the long pole being ... the long pole.  With each status update, it often looks more like a horse race on who will finish and in what order. 

My conclusion is that it is almost never a 1:1 reduction.  I&#039;ve seen it where the overhead processes are so great that it takes something like an 80% drop in requirements to get a 20% reduction in schedule.  In this actual situation, this turned out to have a hidden but silver lining.  While reducing the schedule was near impossible, increasing the requirements by 450% - which was insane in my book - didn&#039;t actually cause that much problem.  I likened the company&#039;s development team to a draft horse (a Clydesdale maybe).  You probably can&#039;t make it run very fast, but you sure can load a lot more onto it than you would expect and still get to where you are going in the same amount of time.

Thanks

Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM,</p>
<p>In practice, at least for organizations that are not good at estimating,  I&#8217;ve rarely seen the long pole stay the same throughout the development cycle.  This means you can&#8217;t rely on the long pole being &#8230; the long pole.  With each status update, it often looks more like a horse race on who will finish and in what order. </p>
<p>My conclusion is that it is almost never a 1:1 reduction.  I&#8217;ve seen it where the overhead processes are so great that it takes something like an 80% drop in requirements to get a 20% reduction in schedule.  In this actual situation, this turned out to have a hidden but silver lining.  While reducing the schedule was near impossible, increasing the requirements by 450% &#8211; which was insane in my book &#8211; didn&#8217;t actually cause that much problem.  I likened the company&#8217;s development team to a draft horse (a Clydesdale maybe).  You probably can&#8217;t make it run very fast, but you sure can load a lot more onto it than you would expect and still get to where you are going in the same amount of time.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Bruce</p>
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